Kristi Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hi Everyone, I'm new to this forum but not to long arm quilting. I had a Millennium for 5 years. Here's my query : I have a distant relative who has an Ultimate XX in storage (1990 I believe). She used it for her decorating business to make bedspreads and I would guess it has many hours on it. She wants me to take it home, set it up and make her an offer. I am expecting quite a bit of work to get it running. It's a huge machine! It has a 14' wooden table with metal legs. Does anyone have any idea what I should offer her once I get it up and running? I want to get a good price but be fair to family. Also, how difficult will it be to get parts? One more thing, is this machine difficult to move around if quilting intricate designs? Thanks all! Kristi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srichardson Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hi Kristi, Perhaps the best thing to do is to contact APQS and give them the information and serial number. They should be able to give you some idea of the asking price. I have never seen a machine like this so I am not able to answer any of your questions. Maybe someone else will chime in with suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darlene Epp Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hi Kristi, This machine is huge, and was made specifically for the drapery and bedspread business. I wouldn't attempt anything but the most simple quilting on it. No matter how little it costs, if you can't use it the way you want to, it's not a good deal. I've been an APQS Dealer in BC since 1997, and I believe this machine was only available for a year or so after that. Longarm machines have come a long way since the Ultimate XX. This is a bare bones machine. After using a Millennium for 5 years, I think you'd be more than a little disappointed with the XX. JMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cegates Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Kristi, My first longarm was an Ultimate XX. It was about the same age as the one you are talking about. I did a lot of work on it - just upgrading and replacing things that had worn out. All the parts I needed were readily available from APQS. When I sold it, it was running really well with no problems. I put M&M wheels on it and the movement was good - my quilting was pretty good with simple designs - I think it would have continued to get better if I had kept the machine longer. It was not stitch regulated so I upgraded to a Millennium when I had the opportunity. It has a huge quilting area, so if you are doing lots of freehand E2E it is a big time saver. I am tall enough (5'5") so that I could use the whole area for simple designs, but could not reach to the back well enough for any detail work. It was a great starter machine for me. Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristi Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thanks Darlene In fact I bought my Millie from you, I believe it was in 2008. It was a 2006. I later added compuquilter and when I changed careers my Mom bought the machine and is running a great quilting business. What I'm looking for is a low cost machine for my own personal use. I appreciate your feedback. I will pass on this machine and hold out for something more suitable to my needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristi Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Carol, Thanks for your help. I think this is way to large for my needs as I am now a hobby quilter after quilting for others for 5 years. I will keep my eye open for a smaller model. I appreciate your comments!! Kristi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimerickson Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Kristi: The XX looks like a larger version of the Ult 1. I think it will work for you. My guess is that most of the internal Ult 1 components fit the XX. I paid $2000 for my Ult 2, and a friend paid $1600 for the Ult 2 she bought. Assuming everything is there, and is in working condition, I would think a price in the $1500 to $2000 range would be fair. My guess is that the wheel system for the XX is the same as the Ult 2, and with a little effort you could find after market wheels that would fit it. I'm also guessing that the wooden table that it has is very similar to the Ult 2. With a little work they can be great. Take a look at the modifications I've made to my Ult 2 table in the thread "Ult 2 Table Modifications". I think it's the same size as the Gammill Optimal, and I have a couple of friends that who have those machines, and love them. No complaints about them being too big. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimerickson Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Kristi: I was wrong about the comparable Gammill machine. I found Carol's add when she sold her XX, and learned the XX has a 36" throat, same as the Gammill Supreme (which Gammill no longer offers) rather than the 30" Optimal. Sorry about the misinformation. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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