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#1 Mary Beth

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 06:00 PM

While I am waiting for someone to talk to me abou the Pantographs, I have another question. I am trying to play with my Harley Fence for the first time....I should have taken more college classes I can tell already. While trying to put together the whole thing the instructions talk about an orbiter. What is an orbiter, and how do I know if I have one or not? The Hartley Fence looked like a hoot in the demos, please tell me that it is easier than it looks right now. Help!!

#2 Tangled Threads

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 05:25 AM

Hi Mary Beth~ I have a HF and I am wondering "When do I do circles on a quilt"? I also wonder what the orbiter thingy is. I bought mine used so excited that I have it........but, when and where do I use it? Hopefully we will get a response to these questions. Good luck!

#3 Mary Beth

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 04:19 PM

Hey Tangled Threads, I am thinking it is just you and me!! I know that you can use the circle on blocks - one I can think of off hand is the pinwheel - the circles will give the block movement. Also, you can use it on plain alternate blocks, that could spice it up a bit - you know do an echo type circle or graduating circles. See I have all these ideas and cannot use them. It is comforting to know that you are out there in cyber space with pretty much the same problem. Thanks for responding!! And good luck back at ya!

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 07:45 AM

Mary Beth- I know that someone will respond!!! It just takes a little time-they are probably busy quilting:o) I see that the circles are also used in the 9 patch blocks-I think I will try that one. But first,,,,,,,practice,practice,practice!!

#5 Dottie McRae

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 08:13 AM

I started using the Harley Fence with the circles on a Log Cabin Quilt. It came out great. The circles are easy to do, just with a little bit of concentration. It's a wonderful tool.:P
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Posted 06 May 2004 - 08:25 AM

I have no idea what an 'orbiter' is but think it is the bar with the holes and numbers as it 'orbits' around the post it is attached to. I never saw one demonstrated (previously owned Ult) but figured it out finally. I have done big interlocking circles on a Log Cabin, alternating small/large circles on baby quilts, circles within circles randomly and best of all circles of all sizes to do feathers around. I find that using the bar to do straight lines is my best use of the fence. Diaganols, x-hatching, even some SID. I make what I want with the fence for as many passes as possible then go around to the front of the machine and sit down and add to it. I understand that now there are templates to use on it also, stars, hearts, etc., kinda like cookie cutters. Hardest part for me to learn was to NOT push the machine but let it gently glide around the mechanism, don't fight it, it knows where to go:-) Mary & Big Girl

#7 sue in Australia

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 11:06 AM

Hi everyone The orbiter is an accessory that is usually only used with the XX to allow the operator to move the head more easily. If you have a stitch regulated machine you will definitely not have one and it is unlikely if you have an Ultimate 1 that you would have one. What to do with the Hartley Fence? What about part circles behind a lone star. I know I am going to get tied in knots trying to describe this but here goes. Say you have black background fabric and pink shades for the star pieces, looking at each of the four outer corners of the star you have black squares. Now look at the top right hand black fabric square. Using the bottom left corner of this square as the centre of your circle you can quilt part circles on the background fabric and repeat in the other three corners. In the other black sections the centre is in the middle where the two points meet. Use this as the centre point of your circle and quilt part circles outwards on the black fabric. This really brings the lone star forward and gives movement to the quilt. You would need to stitch inside the lone star to hold it down - maybe stitch in the ditch. Card trick block is one I usually put two part circles into each ?ard. the centre where the three squares meet is the centre of the part circles and I quilt two part circles in each card. customers always comment on how nice this looks. What about Baptist Fan all over. This is great on flannel quilts if the arcs are spaced 1 1/2 to 2"apart. Quilt 1"apart on traditional quilts with cotton batting for a vintage look. I use my HF at least once a week on blocks where I want to quilt a feathered wreath. I like to do freehand feathers around the wreath because they are quick but being freehand, not perfect. Although each feather maybe a little irregular the centre circle is perfect and the eye is drawn to the centre of the design. Try to remember when designing and quilting circle designs that the bolt that holds the circle arm into the base repesents the centre of the circle. How to quilt a circle in the centre of a block - lower your needle in the centre of the block and bring the HF across to the machine until the pin that hangs down from the idler arm is resting on top of the bolt on the circle arm (the one with all the holes). I hope this makes sense, its 3am as I am typing this so if I haven't made myself clear post to the list and later in the morning, after coffee I'll try to explain better. Sue in Australia

#8 Mary Beth

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 04:22 AM

Thank you all for your response to the Hartley Fence problems. The plan is to sit down Saturday morning while the house is quiet and start trying to figure out how to attach everything. Wish me luck!!

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 07:08 AM

I have a Hartley Fence that I have had for about 5 years and have never been able to make a circle with it it never lines up. bought it new when I bought me Ult 1. Not sure what I am doing wrong. any suggestions would help.
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Posted 30 May 2004 - 01:25 PM

Hi. I'm fairly new here -- don't have my Liberty yet, so I can't give much help. However, I just bought a used Hartley Fence to go with my new Liberty and I am signed up for a class on how to use the Hartley Fence at MQInnovations in Tacoma in September. I bought one because it said it made it easier to do some shapes and straight lines (especially cross-hatching). I'm a big cross-hatching fan, and anything I can get to help me out would be a real plus. I hope it will be a very useful tool for me. Linda P.S. If you're still wondering come early October, I'll share what I learned with you! ;) Hopefully, someone will come up with some info before then!!

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Posted 01 June 2004 - 10:52 AM

The Fence is great and makes perfect circles. Lining up your circles just takes a little practice because your quilt will never be in a perfect line and I find I have to do a tiny adjustment as I go down a row and want them in the center of a block. The fence is very easy to use but to try and figure it out on your own without a demo would be frustrating. I do believe the attachment with the bar and holes in it is called the orbitor, which you need to make circles. Cross hatching is also a breeze with the diagonal attachment, I suggest you do one practice piece first, just so you know how to make your slight adjustment if you are trying to match a point at the opposite side of your quilt. That is unless you or your clients make perfect quilts, then no adjustments necessary. I have only had my Millie for about 3 yrs and don't really do quilts for hire, a few friends quilts now and then, and so I haven't really cranked out a lot on this machine, but I just won 1st place for my machine quilting at the Glendale, Ca quilt show in March and I had done a modified Baptist Fan using the circle attachement. So if I can do it, you can too. It's hard to explain in words, you just have to see it and it's very easy.:cool:

#12 Mary Beth

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Posted 13 July 2004 - 04:15 PM

I made a sampler quilt of some of my quilting for my customer's to see and used the Hartly Fence to make circles on my Pinwheel block. I took my time, read, read, re-read - well, you get the idea - until I figured it out and my circles were right on the money.....I love my Hartly Fence. Everyone that has seen the sampler has been wowed by the circles.

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 08:06 PM

Congratulations Mary Beth ! Sue

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Posted 22 July 2004 - 08:53 PM

I'm not sure if you will be able to see this on the drawing that's attached. But I am planning to use the Hartley Fence for overlapping circles on my Christmas pickle quilt that is attached. I am using the lower corner of the New York Beauty block as the center of the circles and am hoping to have it look like overlapping ripples. I'll post a picture of the real quilt if it works.

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Posted 23 July 2004 - 08:48 AM

WOW! That is going to be just beautiful! I can't wait to see a photo of the real quilt! Teri

#16 Mary Beth

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Posted 23 July 2004 - 11:23 AM

Kari, Wow, that is going to be a beauty!!

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Posted 23 July 2004 - 12:02 PM

Wow! That will be a great quilt with great quilting. Can't wait to see the finished product. Linda

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Posted 04 September 2004 - 08:27 PM

I am a new owner and looking forward to buying this attachment. I love your quilt... Barb Wetzel

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:30 PM

I am still a little confused about the hartley fence. Is the fence both the acrylic hand held straight edge thingy and the circular thingy? I got the circle thingy working pretty good, but there is a long bar that I haven't attached and I can't figure out what it is for. Are there any websites I can go to that have a demonstration of the hartley fence?
Done is better than perfect!

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 06:13 PM

I did this quilt for my son at Christmas and wanted to quilt it quick..Did eliptical circles all over, no lining up and different sizes, was fun easy and quick. Hester Hope this picture attached.:cool:

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