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HQ Sixteen purchased 2009 with stitch regulator on 12' table that converts to 4' or 8' with bobbin winder for M bobbins, ruler table(not shown), stylist light with pantograph. Used for personal quilts. Includes table with conversion kit for sit down quilting. $6500 OBO.

I recently purchased a 2013 Millennium equipped with the L size Smart Bobbin. I'm getting frustrated by how quickly those little bobbins run out -- probably I'm spoiled because my domestic sewing machine for piecing (and what I used for machine quilting prior to getting my longarm) is a Bernina with a giant bobbin that holds twice as much thread as my Millie's bobbin can hold. I have seen some posts on this forum from several years ago indicating that it's possible to order a kit from APQS to switch from one hook system to the other, and I'd like to know more about that option. I emailed APQS support several days ago but have not heard anything back. Has anyone on this forum regretted ordering a machine with the M bobbin? If you have the M bobbin configuration on your APQS machine, how do you like it? Any issues? Any regrets? Anyone out there switched their machine from Smart Bobbin to M bobbin? How much did it cost, was it difficult to do, and are you happy you did it? Also wondering what's involved in adjusting the industrial bobbin winder that came with my Millie to wind M bobbins rather than L. Thanks, Rebecca

I'll cry when it's gone but it must go... This Freedom is only 4 years old but runs like its brand new if not better. Machine is located in Nashville, Tn. 2012 Freedom 14' Bliss Quilting System. Standard feature stitch regulator. Automatic needle positioner. Single stitch button. Laser light, Turbo Bobbin Winder, Vertical channel lock. Quilt glide, Power fabric advance. "M" bobbin . Hydraulic table lift on Bliss/ standard table. Additionally: tool kit, extra needles and accessories. Only $13,000

Other than the obvious difference in size, what are the differences/advantages between the two different bobbins? Why is the L Bobbin called the Smart Bobbin? Does it do something the Big Bobbin (M) does not? Cheers, Pat...

for sale: towa 'm' bobbin gauge, superior top tension gauge, two 'm' bobbin cases, package of mega genie bobbin washers (10 in pk), and approximately 12 aluminium 'm' bobbins. asking $75 plus shipping from canada. i switched to a smart bobbin on my machine and no longer need these.