dianne Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Is it the weather? or what? the last two quilts on the frame have had saggy backs - the only difference was the backing was the extra wide fabric - no seams. They seemed squared up before going on the frame and I didn't free float the top. Would free floating solve the problem??? one rain soaked vancouverite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Porch Quilting Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Have you checked to see if your leaders are stretched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyonden Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I've had a few that had saggy "spots" in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianne Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Roxanne, Is there an easy way to check my leaders? I am not quite sure what I should be looking for. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffq-lar Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Diane--pin the leaders together and roll then back and forth. That will give you a hint if they are stretched. As for saggy backers--always square them by tearing the WOF. Then attach this straight edge to the leaders. If you want to attach the selvedge edges to the leaders, tear off the selvedges before attaching. I leave the selvedges on, but pin above the tighter weave of the edges into regular fabric. I pin about an inch inside the selvedge. Extra wide (108") backers are more prone to sagging simply because of the large expanse from side to side. Square up the backer, load carefully, roll from edge to edge several times to distribute any extra sagging, and clamp the backer carefully. Check for sagging with each advance. If you have an isolated saggy area, stuffing a piece if batting under the front roller (the one you attached the backer to) from the underside. This will flatten the saggy spot and allow you to quilt it. Remove the piece of batting before you advance--otherwise it looks like you rolled the cat up in the quilt! Good luck and have fun! From a soggy Washingtonian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSewSimple Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I have only have one saggy back and solved it by rolling it back and forth until it remained tight on the front roller. I guess it could have been a fluke but it worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnavans Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 This is great advice. Had no ideas to deal with saggy backs. I also have one with sagging back waiting to be quilted. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Wilson Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I use the 108" wide backs all the time. Linda's advice above is exactly what I do, make sure you have a square edge to pin on and I roll the backing backwards and forward until the fabric is evenly distributed. Works great every time. I love using the 108" wide backs..., plus all my clients really appreciate not having to piece their backings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBQLTN2 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 If rolling back and forth helps with a saggy back I wonder if it will work with saggy Breasts and Bottoms? LOL :P:P I must need to go to bed am getting punchy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSewSimple Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Perhaps the rolling back for forth is what caused the saggy boobs and bottoms!!!!!:P:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianne Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Thanks Ladies, I'll check my leaders, roll and reroll and check my unders. I will avoid comments on the state of my own parts, saggy or other wise, since I am afraid to look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dianne, When loading my backs I always roll the backer onto the take-up roller first and then onto the backing bar. I will roll back and forth if I need to get it straight. I rarely ever have any sagging (at least for my quilt backers) using this method. Another thing that helps is to load it with the lengthwise grain on the leaders (salvage edges) which has little to no stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliagraves Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 You can also tighten and loosen up the back if it is sagging a little in different areas. Grip the backing on the backing roller with your thumb on top and fingers underneath, and twist the fabric tighter (down towards the floor) in the loose spots and looser (towards the pickup roller) in the tight spots. This is especially prevalent when you have a pieced back and the seam runs perpendicular to the roller, because of all the buildup of seam allowances. Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoAnnHoffman Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 If I have one side that is a saggy I pull it up and tuck it under the canvas and add more pins till the sag disappears. Do not unpin and try to square, just take a little pleat at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcquilting Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Originally posted by JustSewSimple Perhaps the rolling back for forth is what caused the saggy boobs and bottoms!!!!!:P:P too funny!! you gals are a hoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERRYG Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 good morning ladies just wanted to add a little somethine on the backs i have a closet pole that when i go to load my backing i toss this closet pole into the center it gives just a little bit of weight to the fabric as i begin to roll on to my leaders. it gives it just a small amount of taughtness and helps it to load for me it seems to keep from haveing wrinkles as i roll onto the bars. i had a long pole from the store one day and i just tossed it into the center of the backing to see what happened. it keeps a small amount of tension on the backing so you can smooth as you roll. have a great day. merry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda G. Craig Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Originally posted by JustSewSimple Perhaps the rolling back for forth is what caused the saggy boobs and bottoms!!!!!:P:P That is just tooooo funny!! Love that quick wit, Sylvia! :P:P:P:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linda S Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 I always had problems with this until I loaded the backing onto the backing roller, then attached it to the take up roller, rolled it all onto the take up roller and then back down onto the backing roller. Seems to work wonders for eliminating the sag. I do this with every quilt I load now. Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni123 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Joann, I do the same thing. I have sagging backs occassionaly but I think it is due to stretched leaders. I don't let it bother me because when I pin, it goes away. Just make sure you remove the pins before advancing the quilt top. I don't float my top. Have not had much success with that methos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennan100 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 The closrt pole idea makes complete sense. I bet that with the rolling back and forth would make it right. My bottom is fine from going up & down stairs all day. I wonder if I flipped and did it on my hands the boobs would do as well? From one sweaty Texan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busybee Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 I hope this will help but it also depends on the type of machine and how it rolls. This is what I do. I have a Gammill. I take the selvage off, then I pin to the back roller leader(toward the back of machine) I then roll the backing all on that roller. If you look at the rolled backing, you can see the center usually is pulled up in roller a little and will look not straight. I sometimes push down in center to make it come out from roller as rolling. Then I pin to front roller. I put little tension on the back roller with one hand and roll all backing to the front roller. This helps to straighten out the backing. I look for threads and lint on the backing as I roll. I usually float the top and batting. I hope this is clear as mud. If not email me and I will try to help ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I think ManQuilter hit the nail on the head. Even if you have your take-up canvas marked in the exact center your quilt might not be straight if attached at that mark. This sometimes happens because you attach the backing to the backing roller and may not roll it on straight, throwing off the center of the fabric. I know that I'm probably a little confusing, Matt explains it better on his video (loading your quilt). I used his method and now all my backings are nice and straight and tight. www.manquilter.com (live feed). Oh, I also roll it back and forth a couple times like Heidi recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyg Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I have just been reading the posts pertaining to saggy backing, whew!!! glad to know it is not just me. So much good advice. Right now I have a 108" backing on the frame and it is sagging on the left side only...I thought it might be due to the fact that I steamed the wrinkles out. I will give the rolling back and forth a try before I put my top on. Thank you for all the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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