paradise1400 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Any thoughts on Leadergrips vs. Red Snappers? Which you like better and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 There was a long thread on this under tools and gadgets. Here is the link: http://www.apqs.com/quiltboard/viewthread.php?tid=25800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busy Quilting Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I put my red snappers on earlier in the week. I love how quickly I can get a quilt on and off. Original APQS leaders and no problems with them being too thick. I need to climb under my front bars to put the backing on the back roller as I am Vertically challenged, but it works!! Lyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Sparrow Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 both will save you tons of time and money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoriasews Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I hated the red snappers the first time I used them because it took a hammer to get them on and a vise grip to get them off. But I am not one to give up, especially since I spent $70. After the 3rd time, they loosened up a bit and now I am in love! It takes me about 7 minutes to load a queen sized quilt and 7 seconds to take a quilt off. I am now a very happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedsews Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I am getting ready to put my red snappers on but have to first sew that 3/4" casing. I can't seem to handle doing that by myself with the Lenni, how hard is it to take the leaders off, sew the casings on my domestic and then get the leaders back on the rollers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 The leaders are taped on the rollers. I would suggest leaving them on and sewing the casing. Maybe pin one leader to another would help...or should i say..one fold to the edge of another leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janette Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Having just used a swirls board (rns) with my red snappers loaded it became clear very quickly that I am losing too much space in the throat of my machine, and won't be able to use the snapper on the throat side of the machine next time I use this board otherwise I can't stitch the top curved edge !! if you have a larger throat machine than Lenni or Liberty this should not bother you. I dont know how much you lose with the other sort. Other than that problem I love the red snappers in the speed it gives me to load and unload a quilt. Has anyone else experience this and has a solution ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleyl Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I had zippers on my leaders, so I bought some Duck cloth and made my casings and sewed them onto the zippers. I know what you mean about sewing them on the longarm, so this would be an option. I just loaded my first quilt with the Red Snappers and it was Minky front and back and I had no problem at all loading them. So the people with the trouble loading must have thicker cloth for their casing. It is something to keep in mind when making them. Shirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I did not loose any sewing area, check out our other thread to see pictures and more opinions. It's under gadgets, plus Heidi posted the URL towards the beginning of this thread. The pics show the small zippered leader that I made, it was a lot easier then sewing my canvas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 PS: I sew right up against the RS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I didn't loose any space either. Janette maybe if you posted a picture we could see how you're loosing space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 In the long run, I agree with Matt. Which one you choose is a personal preference both systems are great (LG/RS). Victoria, I'm glad they loosened up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantresh Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Are these LG and RS only supposed to be for loading the backing fabric? Do you still pin the top in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathG Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Let me just say first that I think that the Red snappers are great, but I have also found a little problem. When using my Quiltazoid I will not be able to use the Red snappers as they help make the quilt roll fatter and as you roll the quilt and it gets fatter it can be hard to slide the QZ along the rail. I recently also had this problem with the QZ when using a double bat. I think this is just related to the Lenni as to how much room there is between the the take up roller and the belly bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Originally posted by KathG Let me just say first that I think that the Red snappers are great, but I have also found a little problem. When using my Quiltazoid I will not be able to use the Red snappers as they help make the quilt roll fatter and as you roll the quilt and it gets fatter it can be hard to slide the QZ along the rail. I recently also had this problem with the QZ when using a double bat. I think this is just related to the Lenni as to how much room there is between the the take up roller and the belly bar. Kath I think you can adjust the base so that you can clamp to wider area. Let me double check mine later and I'll get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janette Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I did quilt up to the red snapper too, it is not then that I am losing the quilting space, it is as the red snappers roll into the quilt roll and when that extra bulk is touching the throat of the machine, the top swirl could not be stitched. I have had this problem on longer quilts with the swirl board too, so the space is tight anyway with the Lenni. I am not sure that anyone with a larger throat machine would notice this at all. Unless I am loading them completely wrong of course !!! the quilt does not roll up rounded if you know what I mean. I kind of has that mound on top of the roller bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busy Quilting Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Janette, I can undersatnad your problem, as when the quilt rolls up it rolls up in an oval shape. With the Millenium we have a leveller bar between the roller and the sewing area. My understanding of the Lenni is that you don't have the leveller bar so are rolling the "oval" into your sewing area. The extra height of my red snappers in 3/4" . Can you adjust your boards to be this much further from the top edge? Lyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janette Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 We also have the leveller bar with the Lennis, - but it is the rolling into the oval shape that caused the problem, as when it was pointing towards the throat of the machine, it juts out enough to cause the lack of space needed to finish that top swirl. I will just pin the backing at the throat of the machine next time I use this board, it wasn't a problem with an 11" pantograph. Unfortunately I can't adjust the boards as I wouldn't be able to get the top swirl to be quilted even earlier in the quilt. I might be able to sew a bit further away from the snapper though so that when I roll the quilt, the extra bulk is the other side of the throat of the machine if that makes any sense??? Except for that I like the speed of these though to load and unload, I dont want to critisise them too much, as they are a good product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Janette, Is it the take-up bar causing you the problem or the bar that holds the unquilted top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janette Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yes Heidi, the take up bar. As it rolls into a kind of oval shape, that extra top bit of the red snapper adds too much and hits the back of the throat when using the rns swirls board. Never mind, thankfully I dont have this problem with pantographs (although would have with a larger pantograph) I tend to stick to 12" maximum anyway but have a couple of 13" ones I may not be able to use these with. I will have to experiment with the positioning of the snappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Janette, I guess our throat on the milli is a lot bigger as I've never even come close to maxing anything of the space out and I quilt some large quilts. It might be just a matter of pushing the snapper forward or back a little for those cases. Sorry it created that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Sounds like RS for the Millies and LG for Lenni. Cantresh, the RS and LGs are for both the backing and top but most of us don't pin or fasten the tops, we do a full float of the top. You get enough rods and covers for both layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janette Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 This is not just the snappers though entirely that cause this, this board has given me problems on larger quilts before as the quilt rolls up, and I just lose that top swirl space, it just has happened sooner in the quilt this time - it was only a tiny quilt, 40x60 too !!! I can get around it by sliding the boards sideways and just using one row of the swirl though. It is just a pain to line up again. I think I might just pin the backing that end the next time I use swirls. Thanks for all advice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoryJM Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Originally posted by hmerrill I didn't loose any space either. Janette maybe if you posted a picture we could see how you're loosing space. WHAT?!?! The Staple Queen switched to Red Snappers????:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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