Al Dougal Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I am considering a long arm machine. The new Millennium sells for $17,400. There are several used machines listed in this forum in the 2004 to 2006 vintage that are priced considerably less. My question is what is the difference between the used machines and the new ones as far as manufacturing differences? Do they have any technical differences that would justify buying the new machine? Is a 2006 Millennium the same machine as the 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrna Ficken Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 There are a few changes in the newer models depending on how old the used one is. I would be happy to explain them to you if you want to give me a call. But a few newer changes are and we have added a new model Lucey. Quilt glide Table Blissed or not Lights color Wheels power switch moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrna Ficken Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I sent you a U2U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NollR Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 When I bought my Mille back at the end of 2009 I got a certified used one direct from the company ( a 2005 model )at considerably less than a new one. I did upgrade to M and M wheels since then and would love to get all the extra features that the newer ones have but the budget doesn't allow it. However, if I did get another one I would try for the ones before they changed the color to all white for the machine and table - sorry just don't like it! You need to get what you can afford and I haven't had any problems at all with mine and love it. But get the largest you can afford - you won't be sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dougal Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 It appears that used machines are cheaper, but just as good as the new ones. The differences are in the accessories that are added. Some of the accessories can only be added to the newer machines such as quilt glide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThreads Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Al right now APQS is selling off their demo machines from the last year. There are a couple left as of this morning. The Millenium is $14,900 with the full warranty. Here is the link. http://www.apqs.com/machines_used.php Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primitive1 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I purchased a 2008 machine used as a demo and have loved it...it does not have the quilt glide or the bliss and I only have Edgerider wheels on it but it works like a workhorse and I love it! I only wish it had the on/off switch up near the front but I understand that the newer ones do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibbyG Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Sometimes members are selling their newer models because of illness or moving. Look at the topic on used machines and you may find a newer one for a good price. Another option would be to buy a used Ultimate 1 and then spend your money on the compuquilter, or another computer program. You can program the designs and have the best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dougal Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I'm not familiar with an Ultimate 1. Is that an older long arm machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Grammy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I bought a Freedom demo model last year and love it! It already had some of the extras add on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yes, the Ultimate 1 is an older machine. No longer being made...however parts are available for them. I purchased a Green Millennium direct form APQS over 3 years ago...would do it again. Wonderful machine. I also purchased a used Liberty from a private party. I had several questions before buying the Liberty...spoke to Myrna (APQS Rep) and Mark at the factory...knew I was getting a great deal...and was told if I ever had troubles with it...parts were readily available as was service help if required. It is wonderful. I stand by my APQS machines! They are built right and customer service can't be beat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yes, I agree with Kristina. I have an Ultimate I & a Millennium. The UI is a 2001 with a Compuquilter hooked up to it & the Milli is for freeform quilting. Their all wonderful machines. I've had 7 machines in all, Nolting, Ken Quilt, Gammill, & still I have picked the APQS system for myself. Bar none & hands down the best. zeke............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allison S. Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I purchased a 2008 machine used as a demo and have loved it...it does not have the quilt glide or the bliss and I only have Edgerider wheels on it but it works like a workhorse and I love it! I only wish it had the on/off switch up near the front but I understand that the newer ones do? Where is the on/off switch located? I thought it was on the handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThreads Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Allison Vicki is referring to the main power switch. On the old Ultimate machine it was on the left side in the center, easily accessible from the front or rear. With the introduction of the stitch regulated machines it was moved to the lower rear (panto side), if you are short you would have to walk around to turn the switch on at the beginning of the day. In the last couple of years (when the led lights started I think) the switch is back at the left side middle of the machine. The start stop switches have always been in the front and rear handles. Hope this helps Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allison S. Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Allison Vicki is referring to the main power switch. On the old Ultimate machine it was on the left side in the center, easily accessible from the front or rear. With the introduction of the stitch regulated machines it was moved to the lower rear (panto side), if you are short you would have to walk around to turn the switch on at the beginning of the day. In the last couple of years (when the led lights started I think) the switch is back at the left side middle of the machine. The start stop switches have always been in the front and rear handles. Hope this helps Nigel Thank you Nigel. I'd prefer it in the middle. I guess when I get my new used machine it'll be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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