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I know bliss probably doesn't need waxing or polishing, but was wondering if anyone has polished or waxed the rails and noticed any improvement, both on bliss or on the Lenni black steel table?

It can't hurt though can it? I was watching a video on you tube by Jamie wallen which was interesting, I know it's different rails but was just wondering if anyone uses these waxes and polishes that are suitable?

It was recommended for cleaning expo white board cleaner and renaissance wax? Are these products safe on our wheels etc? Am guessing yes if they are safe elsewhere..


3903CF121430B009ACE771072A3FAF28.pngLenni 2009

on IQ carriage with edgerider wheels and 2012 Lucey on bliss

www.j-quilts.co.uk

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Janette, I have Bliss and IQ. I use rubbing alcohol to wipe down my rails and carriage. I think this is the best thing. Nothing else is needed.


"Of all the things a woman's hands have made---The quilt so lightly thrown across her bed---The quilt that keeps her loved ones warm---Is woven of her love and dreams and thread." excerpt from The Romance of the Patchwork Quilt by Carrie A. Hall
 

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 Always quilting with her faithful friend, Mademoiselle Madeleine Millennium, Bliss-fully skating gracefully...and having lots of fun with IntelliQuilter

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I agree with Shana. :)

I use a piece of batting to wipe off the Bliss rods and take off any oxidation on the carriage rails and wheels. I use alcohol every now and then to do a deep cleaning. 

APQS stopped recommending using wax on the rails quite a while ago. 


Linda Rech

Finely Finished Quilts

Millennium on Bliss rails--hand-guided

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I have a Millie and Bliss table.  I cleaned my carriage and wheels with alcohol, and it was still like moving a ten ton truck around.  In desperation, I tried cleaning my carriage with stainless steel polish made for my refrigerator; I wiped it on and wiped it off.  My machine moves freely when I do that.  I don't know if that is approved by APQS, but it is the only way I found where my machine moves the way it should.


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Lynn McCartney

APQS Millennium w/Bliss

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I have a Millie and Bliss table.  I cleaned my carriage and wheels with alcohol, and it was still like moving a ten ton truck around.  In desperation, I tried cleaning my carriage with stainless steel polish made for my refrigerator; I wiped it on and wiped it off.  My machine moves freely when I do that.  I don't know if that is approved by APQS, but it is the only way I found where my machine moves the way it should.

 

Lynn, your 10-ton truck description --- this seems odd to me. It should not be like this. Something is not set or adjusted correctly,... could it be your wheels? Or your table is out of square? or not level? Something isn't adding up right. It's even possible you have a bad wheel bearing some place....

 

Any way, with Bliss, your machine should move easily by barely touching the handles... and it should slide around the table like a hot knife through butter.

 

Contact APQS to go through troubleshooting.


"Of all the things a woman's hands have made---The quilt so lightly thrown across her bed---The quilt that keeps her loved ones warm---Is woven of her love and dreams and thread." excerpt from The Romance of the Patchwork Quilt by Carrie A. Hall
 

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Shana in North Pole, Alaska ---- The Farthest North APQS Sales Rep  
 Always quilting with her faithful friend, Mademoiselle Madeleine Millennium, Bliss-fully skating gracefully...and having lots of fun with IntelliQuilter

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Linda,

 

Is it harmful to use the alcohol every day for cleaning. That is how I was taught by my dealer and also think I remember it was in the manual. If I can get away with not doing it every time, that would be fine with me ;-) I also use the alcohol on a microfiber cloth to clean in the groove in the black wheels on the carriage. Is that ok? When watching the training manual when you first get your machine, it sounds like you will be doing maintenance cleaning that will take you half a day. 

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Whatever:  I wouldn't wax the rails on your Ult 2, just clean with alcohol.  If you really want to improve the cleanliness on your machine, take the rails off your table and have them hard anodized by a local plater.  It will eliminate the black aluminum oxide the shows up on them.  Significantly reduces the frequency of cleaning.  Gets rid of the black "tracks" when you accidently roll the carriage over a quilt back.  Jim

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Sandy K a quick wipe down of the Bliss rails every day gets the accumulated dust off them from batting etc.  My routine of rails, wheels, bobbin, oil etc doesn't take more than 10 minutes.

 

The old rails pre Bliss loved a thorough clean to get rid of the black stuff daily but that rub down only added a few minutes.


Lyn Crump   Hand Guided 2013 Millenium Blissed and Gliding    APQS Sales Rep SE Qld Australia   www.busyquilting.com.au   On Facebook and Instagram as BusyQuilting


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Rubbing alcohol is not commonly known in the uk... Think it's called surgical spirits here, Thanks all the same will try the expo ... It was fab on my bedroom mirrors if nothing else... Lol


3903CF121430B009ACE771072A3FAF28.pngLenni 2009

on IQ carriage with edgerider wheels and 2012 Lucey on bliss

www.j-quilts.co.uk

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Janette,  If there is a Cartridge World store near you, ask them if they have IsoPropyl alcohol.  That is the other name rubbing alcohol is know by.  They use it for cleaning cartridges!!!!

Tattoists also use it to clean the skin before tattooing!


Lyn Crump   Hand Guided 2013 Millenium Blissed and Gliding    APQS Sales Rep SE Qld Australia   www.busyquilting.com.au   On Facebook and Instagram as BusyQuilting


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You do not need to rub down your rails with rubbing alcohol every day. I only do it every few days or once a week to keep the oxidation from building up. The other times I am using the machine, I just wipe down with a lightly dampend cloth /paper towel or I wipe with windex just to keep the dust bunnies, fuzz under control.

 

Also with the bliss rubber wheels (M&Ms) I don't like to use alcohol on them. I just wipe with a damp cloth or Q tip.


"Of all the things a woman's hands have made---The quilt so lightly thrown across her bed---The quilt that keeps her loved ones warm---Is woven of her love and dreams and thread." excerpt from The Romance of the Patchwork Quilt by Carrie A. Hall
 

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes: 

Shana in North Pole, Alaska ---- The Farthest North APQS Sales Rep  
 Always quilting with her faithful friend, Mademoiselle Madeleine Millennium, Bliss-fully skating gracefully...and having lots of fun with IntelliQuilter

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Don't have scotch either Jim.... Although I wish I could drink at the moment... Unfortunately painkillers mixed with scotch is probably best avoided.... Lol.


3903CF121430B009ACE771072A3FAF28.pngLenni 2009

on IQ carriage with edgerider wheels and 2012 Lucey on bliss

www.j-quilts.co.uk

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Thanks for the reply, Shana.  I think I remember when I first got the Bliss that my machine did move really freely.  That was so long ago I barely remember it now!  I have pondered if my wheels were worn or something, and thought about maybe trying some new wheels; that's about all I can think of that would be wrong, nothing else has changed.  I think I'll have to invest in a new set of wheels now while I'm between quilts.  Thanks for spurring me back to action on this problem!!


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Lynn McCartney

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"Excellence in all things; all things to the glory of God."

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I remember Myrna a while back saying NOT to wax if you have bliss, I think it will ruin the wheels...the steel black frame I don't know about...I do know that they say it's not necessarily necessary to wax the old aluminum frame like I have with my Ultimate 1...but I discovered early on it makes a BIG difference in movement for me.  I have edgeriders too so I don't know how much that effects wether or not waxing will help or not.  They used to have you wax to prevent that oxidation buildup...I don't think it makes any difference for me, I wax pretty much just for the benefit of movement it gives...about once every two or three quilts...more for an intense quilt.  :)


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Dawn told me to never use alcohol on the bliss wheels.  I don't remember why.  

 

The M&M bliss wheels are rubber and alcohol dries them out over time. Not a good thing. Use a damp cloth to clean inside the M&M wheels.  Use alcohol only on the metal parts of the table and carriage to get a clean finish.


"Of all the things a woman's hands have made---The quilt so lightly thrown across her bed---The quilt that keeps her loved ones warm---Is woven of her love and dreams and thread." excerpt from The Romance of the Patchwork Quilt by Carrie A. Hall
 

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes: 

Shana in North Pole, Alaska ---- The Farthest North APQS Sales Rep  
 Always quilting with her faithful friend, Mademoiselle Madeleine Millennium, Bliss-fully skating gracefully...and having lots of fun with IntelliQuilter

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