IBQLTN2 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I was just wondering if I need a vertical thread holder to use mono poly thread or is there another way to compensate for it. Just got the machine and have not added anything except the hartly expanded base. Is this spool holder another must? any makeshift options until I can order Jeanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Jeanne you can just put a thread net on the spool to help keep it from pooling off the spool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBQLTN2 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 thanks I will try that and see how it goes. I know I will have to adjust the top tension, but I am afraid I won't be able to get it back where it is supposed to be and will mess myself up. Haven't gone there yet so it makes me nervous. Yikes, venturing into unknown territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I too do as Heidi does...I use the net and use the only spool holder...I haven't invested in the horizontal one. I at one time had a home-made one, but dont' know where it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Bonnie you are funny. I have the horizontal spool holders but most of the time use my vertical one. Jeanne - don't be afraid! First before you mess with tension try threading through only 1 or 2 holes instead of all three. That will reduce the tension and sometimes enough not to have to mess with the tension disk. Spend an afternoon messing with the tension until you get over the fear of doing it. You can do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Wilson Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Is your monoploy on a spool? To get the best results if you are using a spool is to use a spool (horizontal) holder of some kind. Reason being is that if the thread is coming off the top of a spool you are adding twists to the thread and perhaps adding to tension issues, coming off the spool left to right (or right to left) does not add twists as it was originally wound on that way. http://www.superiorthreads.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=100 talks about this...lots of good advice on their education pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltaholi_518 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I have tried monopoly on the verticle holder with disasterous results, breaking every foot or so. I agree that in a "stacked spool" as opposed to cross-wound (like our cones) you are twisting the thread as it comes off. I have gone through many spools successfully on the horizontal holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBQLTN2 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 It is on a spool instead of on a cone so that is why I was wondering if I needed the vertical spool holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 If you are talking about Superior MonoPoly trust us...you can use the regular vertical spool holder at the back of your machine...experiment with tensions...maybe you can get away with using a net and not having to deal with other things...maybe you can just thread through the 1 or 2 of the holes as mentioned and you will have good results...its works. I don't even use the net most of the time I can't find them....and somedays I can get away with 2 holes and some I need all three....play around with your machine it is the only way you will really learn what is going to work for you. Don't be afraid of it...jump in with both feet and play, take notes and pictures if you need to, but play and enjoy this...its not brain surgery. Just remember to breath and enjoy it, otherwise you will just go screaming into the hills and not have any fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Wilson Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi Jeanne, On your Lenni, the holders at the back by the handles are basically vertical holders....the spool holders are horizontal so the thread feeds off the spool in a left to right (right to left) manner. To see a picture of a horizontal holder see...bottom of the follwing page..item called Hartley spool holder... http://www.apqs.com/supplies_hartley.php?p=2 this is a picture of a spool (horizontal) holder. Now you can use anything that would work to feed the thread off in L to R (or R to L) manner, not necessarily this holder only. (RitaR husband was making these type of holders...read it on a past thread) Also on the same page noted above you will see the vertical cone holder...this is another gizmo you can add to your machine...all that does is eliminate the need to walk around your machine to change threads. The reason I use a horizontal spool holder with spools of thread, (not just monopoly but with Aurifil, etc) is that I know I am not adding to any tension issues by adding twists to the thread before it goes through my machine. As Bonnie and others above mention, on their systems it works well just coming off the vertical holder at the back of their machines...try out differnet things on your system and see what works best for you. Tension is nothing to be afraid of, put a mark on your dial and machine as to where the tension works best for the thread you usually use so you have a guide of where you can turn it back to. I have a mark on my machine and dial set to SoFine in top and SoFine in bobbin. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBQLTN2 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Nadia what did you use to mark your tension. I looked at the holders and that was basically my question. I will try without and if can't get it to work right by adjusting the tension then maybe I will get some kind of a vertical spool holder. this was the reason for the post don't want to spend money unless absolutely necessary. Husband will wonder if I keep ordering things if this was really such a good idea of getting Lenni. LOL thanks for all answers it helps to hear what works best for everyone. and then figure out what works best for me. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrna Ficken Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Jeanne if you want to call me I will walk you through your tension adjustments and I think you will find it eaiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBQLTN2 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 THANKS MYRNA When I get ready to do that I will. Right now I don't have a quilt on the machine to test it with. thanks I will keep your number for when I get ready to try. For years I have been afraid to mess with tension unless it was already a mess then I figured I couldn't make it any worse> LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffq-lar Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi Jeanne, (This is just between you and me because I expect to hear someone snort with laughter or disdain when I write this) I had no horizontal spool holder when I first started out. To use Monopoly I poked a hole in the lid of a plastic deli container, ran the end of the thread through the hole, popped the thread inside, and snapped on the lid. I jammed that container between the spindle and the side of the machine, made sure the thread would feed freely, threaded the machine (loose tension, only two holes of the three-hole) and off I went! That spool clattered and spun in the container but it worked fine and I had minimal breakage. I now have a horiz. holder and it is an improvement, but in a pinch use what ya have!!! Make sure the hole in the lid is smooth and see what happens! "Make-do" Linda from Olympia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Wilson Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi Jeanne, I used a fine tip Sharpie marker. Made a mark on the machine and on the dial, set at where my tension is perfect. If you are going to use the monopoly thread, you'll have to loosen your tension dial to very loose, so you will have to play with the tension, it really is easy once you try and get familiar with the different threads on your machine. I can send you a picture if that would help of my tension dial, I'm a visual learner so pictures always help me. Have you had a chance to take your beginner's class yet? Linda, that is an excellent idea! I like it! There are ways other than the horizontal spool holder to get the thread to feed of the spool correctly, that was the point I was trying to make...as long as the thread is coming off the correct way how you got it to do that is not important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Originally posted by ffq-lar (This is just between you and me because I expect to hear someone snort with laughter or disdain when I write this) "Make-do" Linda from Olympia! I didn't snort....I don't snort.....wouldn't be caught snorting....now laughing and having to run to the bathroom....I can do that. I to did a silly thing, I said earlier I made mine...it was a piece of wire hanger...took and cut off the length...made a circle on one end and hooked it over the screw head on the side of my machine...worked great, but now I lost the silly thing and don't have another clothes hanger....DARN... I too can be known as "Make-Do...Bonnie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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