Suesquilts Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Hello, I have ordered some pantos for my new Liberty. After reading some posts (somewhere?), now I am wondering if they will all fit. What size pantograph patterns will actually fit on the Liberty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftedhands Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 11 inches! Am I right? Cynthia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suesquilts Posted November 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Uh oh. Only eleven inches for a 20 inch throat. That doesn't sound like much room. I may not be able to use a couple of the ones I ordered. I guess I should have posted this before I ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linda S Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Well ... I think you can squeek out a bit more room than that. I have two Jodi Beamish pantos that are 12" each and I can do those with no problem. Much past that and you are pushing it. I have a 13 1/4" one that will not fit. I'm going to give a nice 13" one a try tomorrow and, if it won't fit, I'll just use my foot pedal and improvise a bit. I really want to use this design and will be so bummed if I can't make it work! Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheryl Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 I bought "Splash-LG" from Willow Leaf and it won't fit. It measures 13.5. I did finish the quilt I was working on but I had to advance and then re-roll the entire time. After the second pass I marked the best spots to stop and either advance or retreat. I got it finished, and I now understand how use the foot pedal. I have yet to use the panto again....too much of a pain to go froward and back 6 times with each pass!! I really need to order the smaller version. Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linda S Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 I forgot to say that the reason you are so limited in panto size is the leveler bar. I ends up taking up quite a bit of your space, but it is so necessary in making everything come out so nice and smooth. I'm finding that most of the pantos are being made for the smaller machines now. Actually, the one I'm trying today is Spring Fling by Nichole Webb. You can't even buy the 13" panto anymore. It now comes in 11", but the design is a bit different. We'll see how it goes as soon as I finish my coffee! Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I have the old Ult II and in test driving a Liberty I was a bit disconcerted to find the leveler bar taking up so much of my precious space. But I don't think I use any panto's that are made for a Millennium sized machine anyway. I don't find the need for the leveler bar. I don't really bother raising and lowering the take up bar either. Maybe I need to learn something about that, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Geary Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 I have an Ultimate 1 so pantos fit easily but I would think that it would be possible to determine the repeat on a larger panto and then reduce it on a copy machine. Then if you print 5 or six copies of the repeat and place them end to end you could re-create the panto but in the 11" size. Of course, this would only be if the panto is not available in the 11" size. And you may want to check with the vendor. Also, at Innovations I picked up a little cardboard gadget that helps me determine what percentage to reduce/enlarge an image to fit a specific area. Very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Linda S Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 In most cases, Pam, you need to get permission from the artist or publisher to shrink the panto. There is usually a disclaimer on them that states that you cannot reproduce or resize them in any way shape or form. I did get permission to resize the 15" Feathered Curls from Timeless Quilting Designs. Just haven't done it yet. Linda P.S. I did manage to get the 13" panto to fit, but I did have to do a little improvising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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