Abercroft Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I just bought an Ultimate I for a great price. It has the black 14 foot table included. I wonder if it is possible to add the `Bliss system to this frame? Is it possible to use this machine with another frame that will take the Bliss system? Where does one get a frame without the machine? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Is your table the one with round or square tubing table. I suppose it ready doesn't matter either way, but yes you can add the bliss system to it. Or you can just upgrade to the M & M wheels. That's what I have on my UI. Nice & smooth. The bliss system will cost you around $3000. Not cheap, but the M & M are just under $300. Zeke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abercroft Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Oh wonderful!!! Its the square tubing. I paid very little for the machine, so I will start to save my pennies. It already has the m and m wheels, but I don't know how old they are. And it seems a little choppy in movement. So Bliss rails would be worth it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abercroft Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Is the Bliss system something my husband and I could install, or does it need a profession APQS technician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThreads Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 You can do it yourself. I believe it is new rails, new carriage and M&M wheels for the head. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Try adjusting your m&m's before you buy the bliss. I bought my wheels used and they're quite smooth. I have the buggers adjusted just right. Zeke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abercroft Posted July 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Thanks, Z. I will. I'm not sure if they should be replaced or how old they are. I'm not close to getting a bliss so I will have to make due. But it's something for the future.... Anyone know how much Intellistitch is for my machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThreads Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 [quote name="Abercroft" post="530954" timestamp="1468470205 Anyone know how much Intellistitch is for my machine? About $3200 if you are lucky enough to live where there is still an installer. It might be easier to trade your head in on for a certified pre owned head. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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