Nettie Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I have a quilt ready to load and the customer has requested a panto in the body and custom in the borders. When I usually do panto's I run them off the edges but can't do that now. How do I begin and end a panto row to make it look good without running into the borders??? All advice is welcomed!!!!!! Thanks! Janette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Janette, in Myrna's beginner's DVD she used painters tape to mark the deliniation line on the panto where to stop so you don't run past. When you get close to the blue tape you can look up at the quilt to see where you're at and you can fudge to the stopping point. I used this technique once for a quilt and it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nettie Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I feel really dumb even asking this question...I am sure if I just do the math I should be able to figure out how I will come out at the bottom of the quilt....just have not done this before and don't want to totally mess it up. Janette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Janette, well, don't ask me to do any math because I'll just give a blank stare into outer space. Math is not in my highest of skill sets! Anyway, I think when you are using your panto and you are nearing the edge where the border is, stop just prior to starting the next row and use your laser light and run that along the area where the border starts. Use the laser light to help you place the blue tape. That way you know to stop just prior (maybe an inch or so) to meeting the blue tape line. Then you can fudge your way to the end where the border is,,, or you can use a wet erase marking pen to draw a temporary line on the panto plastic cover that connects the panto so it continues, rather than going past the blue tape line. I hope I made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltingbykaren Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Try this: When you get close to the bottom, use your laser to get an idea of where the end of you quilt is on the pantograph. Use blue painter's tape to tack paper to the panto at this point and then fudge your lines so you get a continuous flow along the bottom. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nettie Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks Karen and Shana.You both make sense....now if I can execute it. You would think that after quilting as many years as I have, this would have come up before now but it just was never requested. I do feel really dumb but your instructions will make it easier...........thanks! Janette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 No way, you are not dumb! I would have not known how to do this (or even imagined it) without the wisdom given in Myrna's Beginner's DVD! This DVD is great for beginners and really helped me "SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!" :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliagraves Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 It's really hard to do the math to make the rows in a panto come out exactly even because the quilt draws up some as you quilt. Additionally, I don't like to space the panto rows out farther than the designer drew them, because then it doesn't look as interlocked - they are more obviously repeating rows. I agree with the previous posters - when you get towards the end, either draw some new lines on paper to fill in any gap. I've also just moved around to the front of the machine and freehanded in something similar to the panto. Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandraC Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Yes to what Julia says about freehanding in that last row. Or you can modify the panto a bit to fit by using a dry-erase marker on your plastic that covers the panto pattern to make the last row fit. ( I don't know if I'm making sense!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lib Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Hi Nettie. I have a client who has borders on all her quilts and I often do a panto in the middle. What I do is basically what Julie does except I figure out where the best place to start and stop a row is and then I redraw the beginning and end of the panto. Towards the bottom I see how much of the panto will fit. Sometimes just by altering the distance between the rows makes it fit. Other times I redraw the bottom. Does this make sense? Lib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhend Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 It's times like this, freehand quilting works best. I've gotta learn how to do more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebm Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Wonderful information! This is all so helpful to anyone who hasn't had to do all these things! Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nettie Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I really appreciate all the info...now another question. Should I quilt the top borders before I start the panto in the body of the quilt. I thought I would....then baste the sides. After I finish the body of the quilt, do the bottom borders and then turn the quilt to do the sides??? Is that sounding right??? Janette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Well, for me, I would pin everything really good to stablize (all four borders top bottom and sides) and quilt the inner body of the quilt with the panto first. Then go back and quilt the outer borders. Things shift too much when quilting. I'd rather start in the middle and work out. (That's just my humble opinion!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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