buslady Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Is there a site or does some have a manual that they would share on timing the needle bar and the machine? My daughter was using my machine, and bent a needle, and now it does not want to sew without breaking the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 You might just have a burr in the needleplate area. Try using a sanding cord (that isn't the name of it but that is what it looks like). I'd check that first. I'm not sure how different timing the ULT II is from the Milli's but I'm sure if you email Amy or Dawn they'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buslady Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'll have to pick up the sanding material tomorrow, if I can find any. The machine will sew a few stitches, and then skip a few, and then sew again before breaking the thread. I'll probably have to wait until Monday before getting it fixed. Thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don't have an Innova, but they do have a good You Tube Video on timing their machine, and it could apply to just about any brand of long arm machine. I don't know why there are so few really good "timing videos". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 The timing is just like a Millie, same parts....on my old ULT II. I would need to use an Emory board as I didn't always have cord on hand. A very very fine grit board worked wonders... If you find it's more than that let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimerickson Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Shirley: After you check the needle plate, check your hook. You may have scratched it when the needle broke. Feel with your finger, the outside edge of the hook. If you feel a scratch, use some fine emory cloth or an emory board, and polish off the raised edge of the scratch. A scratch on the hook will cause thread breakage. Check the timing of your machine. The skipped stitches suggests that it is a timing problem. Pay special attention to the needle bar height (make sure the eye of the needle is at the proper elevation when the needle bar is all the way down). Breaking the needle could have pushed the bar up in it's clamp. Good luck. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buslady Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Jim, I am waiting for my son to get here to help me. I don't see so good anymore. 72 is old to start learning a new machine, but I know I will make it. I have printed off everything you have written me, so hopefully everything will go okay. I have the Sally Terry tapes, and I have watched them. I am not sure about the needle bar though. I watched the timing on the Innova, and it looks like the needle bar is okay. It will sew a straight line, but when I make a slight left turn, it will not pick up the thread, or will break it.(This is from the front side of the machine) Bonnie, I am keeping your number handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimerickson Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Shirley: Do you have the timing instructions that originally came with the machine? I have mine, along with 3 excellent photos of properly timed hook/needle. If you're using the instructions from an Innova, keep in mind that the Innova uses an "M" size hook, while your Ultimate 2 uses an "L" size hook, and the position of the needle eye as relates the hook basket is a bit different. (ask me how I know!) With the "M" hook you can barely see the eye of the needle below the bobbin case basket edge, while with the "L", the eye is to be about 1/32" to 1/16" below the basket edge. The needle bar height adjustment is inside the sewing head. There is a hole in the front of the machine, above the light bar, that lets you access the clamp screw with a screw driver. To adjust the needle bar height, remove the cover on the left side (when you are at the front of the machine). This will allow you to see the mechanism, making loosening the clamp screw and pushing the bar up or down ( down if the bar was pushed out of place) easier. Before you get involved with this, make sure the bar needs to be adjusted. That's to say make sure there are no burs on the needle plate, or on the hook assembly. Also make sure you understand how to sight the needle relationship to the hook basket. (there's a line drawing of the sight relationship in my owners manual) The adjustment isn't difficult, but there's no sense getting into it unless you need to. BTW, when you loosen the needle bar clamping screw, you can rotate the needle bar, so if you want to change the position of the needle clamp screw you can. (I rotated mine from the left to the front, and replaced the slot headed screw with an allen screw because I feel it's easier to work that way) Good luck. Post if you need any additional info. Regards. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buslady Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well, we are back up and working properly(I think). Buddy found several burrs that I did not see. It was out of time. It will sew and it makes a good stitch. Jim, if you would share your photos, it would be appreciated. I do not think I will ever be comfortable timing this machine, but this is one time I can say, thank God for kids. Thank you all for your help. I am printing off all the information on the Ult II that I can find, including any and all email, and forum talk from you all. Thanks again. Shirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimerickson Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Shirley: The photos I have came with my owners manual. Perhaps Dawn can get a set from the factory. If not, send your street address to my e-mail (jimatthelake903@yahoo.com), and I'll send you the set I have. (I feel pretty comfortable with my timing knowledge, and can probably get along without them) Regards. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheri Butler Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Here you go. Timing instructions. Well crap. it's too big. I'll send it to your email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buslady Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Thanks to you all. Now I have three familys. First my immediate (husband and kids and grandkids), next, my church family and now my APQS family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cblevins Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Shirley doesn't it feel great when you get them running again? Mine was timed today too and she feels so much better;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buslady Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 That is a big yes. This is the first time I have ever had a machine out of time. I do hope it is the last. I started helping my mom quilt when I was about ten years old. She had a quilting frame hung from the ceiling, and we quilted every nite after school. I loved my mom but swore I would never quilt again when I left home. I got married at 18, got a treadle machine, and I have been sewing ever since. This Ult II is really something to be proud of. Mom would be so amazed at what I can do in so little time. Enough rambling. Shirley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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