amyfaith Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yipee! I just picked up my Ult 1 and 14ft looks a lot bigger in a room than when you are just using a measuring tape! I am so excited!!! I have spent the last 3 hours with goo-gone and a toothbrush removing all of the sticky residue from where the company put tape everywhere. She is getting ready - slowly but surely. The canvas leaders are really dirty and the guy gave me some more canvas so that I could replace them. I know they used industrial glue before - any suggestions on the best way to remove and replace the leaders? I expect to be posted quite a bit asking for your expert advise since I have a new (to me) machine with no manual. Jumping for Joy in Texas, Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagecl Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Amy, I think there is a previous post regarding this subject...you can do a search at the top of the forum. I think it will answer your questions about leader replacement. Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyfaith Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yes, I seem to remember seeing someone suggest even using duct tape, but I could not find the tread - I searched canvas, leaders, glue, duct tape, replace, canvas leaders...no luck. lol - I have got to take a shower. I smell like an entire orange grove exploded from scrubbing with that goo-gone for so long. Hey, there are worse things I could smell like right? Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelalan Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 for my new leaders I used duct tape, the origional factory tape was masking tape, but that was 10 years ago....duct tape is the way to attach your leaders:cool::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckeindl Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 The leaders on my Ult II are still attached with masking tape?! I don\'t think the previous owner hardly used it! Duct tape sounds alot better! Did you tape all the way across? Thanks! Cathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelalan Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I used 12 inch pieces with about 6 inch spaces between, worked great and didn\'t have to deal with the whole length long...;):cool:I love it that you have the original tape too;);)Oh btw, don\'t use more tape on the metal roller, about 1/4 on the roller, 3/4 on the leader worked great:cool::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelalan Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 it\'s easier to remove years later when you want to change out, if you use 1/2 tape on leader and 1/2 on on metal roller, more tape residual left on the roller, 1/4 inch on metal roller is easier to remove....;);):cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Beth Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I think you can use double sided carpet tape too. I haven\'t personally tried it so can\'t speak from experience. But I think it is strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffq-lar Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I like Michaelalan\'s thought, though I haven\'t had to replace my leaders. Remember that you don\'t need a permanent attachment. After the leaders are attached and rolled once, the rest of the leader will hold the beginning in place. Unless you unroll all the way to the beginning, any strongish tape should work. Whatever you do now to attach the leader may come back to haunt you in a few years when you decide to replace again--remember the elbow grease and Goo-Gone it took to get off the adhesive this time! Amy, have a great time with your new machine! It is so much fun and so satisfying whether you start a business or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrna Ficken Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 When attaching new leaders I clean the rail, squeeze a good line of Elmer\'s glue down the rail place the canvas(making sure it is straight) press it down by running my hands down it a few times and doing any adjusting that may need to be made. Then run a strip of blue painters tape along the edge. You can use duct tape in a few places if you like, then roll. Myrna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelalan Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I didn\'t want to glue cause of the mess and rust, Glue will eventually dry up and fall off the rollers, when stretched the tension does pull at the glue spots and masking tape, my rollers had spots of glue here and there with the masking tape, which is why I replaced the original tape job. My canvases stretched out in various spots along the roller after a few years, so the duct tape came into play, Then eventually the new canvases, and it works far better than the glue and masking tape did....also cleaning the goop off the rollers after the duct tape is removed isn\'t that hard, goo gone will do the trick....The glue will also cause your rollers to rust under the glue spots, it chipped off and took the paint with it, the rust spots were under each glue spot where the paint chipped off.....I had to sand the spots out and touch up with spray paint, the duct tape hasn\'t rusted anything....:cool::cool::cool::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitaR Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thank You for this thread... Finally, an answer to "how are the leaders attached to the rollers?\' When we got Penny, nothing would stick to the rollers.. not the velcro, tape, duct tape, blue tape or glue. We had to end up sanding the surface.. now most things stick. With Penny, the leaders were not attached.. the rollers are each two sections. RitaR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanette Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Gotta put my two cents in here:-) I replaced my leaders and used the nylon string enforced strapping tape. (clear looking with threads showing in it) I used a chalk line from hubbys shop and snapped a straight line down the length of the roller and used that for a guide. Put the tape about half on the leaders, half on the roller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyfaith Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Sweet! Duct tape I can handle! Another question...how long should the leaders actually be? I have a new roll of canvas ready to go, but would like to use the "measure twice, cut once method" for once. I tend to get so excited that I just go for it. I am trying to be patient, but it is not easy with my new machine calling my name. Oh, one more thing....there was a lot of tape on the track/rails and now that I have spent hours scrubbing it off, I wonder if it might have been their solution to cover bumps or scratches. If there are scratches on the aluminum rails, it that something that you file down? I was holding out on ordering an old manual because the previous owner thought he knew where his was. No such luck. If there are any ULT 1 owners out there that could post a picture of your set up, that would be great. I am going to have to figure out which rail goes where and any visual would be a tremendous help! I am SO GLAD to have found this forum. I look forward to the day that I can be of help instead of just mooching from all of you. Can\'t be a newbie forever right? Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitaR Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Your questions brought help for others.. thats being a help. Thanks.. ;o) RitaR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbi Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I used duct tape too. LOVE duct tape!! I bought heavy duck cloth at JoAnn\'s, with coupon, $3/yd. 60" fabric, cut in half and serged the edges. checked for "square", straight, etc. The cool thing is that I can recycle those when they become out of shape - wash the fabric and make grocery totes out of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelalan Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I\'ve also seen some leaders with a rolled hem on them, I think Bonnies was rolled edged, or was it moms? getting oldtimers now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbi Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Amy, here\'s my Ultimate 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbi Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 and another view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobbi Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 like my yellow duct tape? made my own base extender... See my new wheels? Sorry some of these are a bit blurry..... must be tooo much coffee! I hope these help Amy. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitaR Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Bobbi, may I ask.. in the first photo.. closest part of the \'whole set up, the gray box and the black and silver things.. lol sorry.. are they the fabric advance, the table raising and lowering divices, or something totally unrelated. I know the hydrolic lift isn\'t yet for Lenni, but can\'t find much info about anything else.. I feel like I\'m in limbo. Thanks for help. RitaR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbi Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Rita: It\'s the motor for my "take up" roller... I don\'t have lifts, and I really really wish I had a stitch regulator.... but it runs really well. With the motor, my whole set up is almost 15 feet. My living room is 40 feet x 11.5\'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam H Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 There was an article in the January issue of Unlimited Possibilities. They used carpet tape and then duct tape. Bobbi what panto was on your table in the photo. PamH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyfaith Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Bobbi - Bless you for posting pictures! I cannot tell you how much of a help that is. My machine came with 4 rollers. From what I have heard there is one that I really do not need. Since I have the table with the springs and it looks like it is not going to be easy to adjust the back roller, I was going to try to mount that extra roller to make the set up like yours and the more recent models where the take up roller does not ever have to be adjusted. Do you think the bar that keeps the quilting surface level (with nothing wrapped around it) would actually have to roll? or would a stationary bar do the job? Another question for you about your wheels. I have the older wheels and was wondering how big of a difference they made for you. We are still working on adjustments, but my machine is moving pretty smooth (I think), but as I move down the frame it is...kind of like a weighted ball rolling...moves quickly and then slows down as if the wheel is worn down unevenly. I\'m not sure if that makes much sense. Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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