witha'K'quilting Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 help! I have a 6 almost 7 year old who is struggling with reading. Cheryl is trying really hard, however phonics are not working for her. The school's intervention teacher wants to try Tucker signing with her. Anyone ever use it or know much about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSewSimple Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Kristina, when was the last time you had her hearing tested. Many times phonics does not work because the child can't hear the sounds. My son had this issue. After surgery he did great! Don't know about signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 her hearing is 100%..so is vision. these tests were just done thursday and friday of last week. in fact, i had to go to utah once again for her eye test. spent 4 days in salt lake last week...in 2 separate trips. yuck. at least it wasn't snowing like it is now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cblevins Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Kristina I have heard of the system. Indiana has quite a large amount of English second language students. The Tucker signing system has proven to be helpful with ESL students. I spent 20 years working with students that struggled with reading, math or behavior. There isn't a sure fire thing that works for everyone. I saw more reading gains from a program developed by "Boys Town" than anything I had ever seen. My daughter was an early reader but she learned by site words rather than phonics. Your daughter is very young and may just need to mature a little more but I believe I would listen to the intervention teacher and let her try. It shouldn't hurt anything and may help a lot. Everyone learns differently, you just have to find what works for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Originally posted by cblevins ......Your daughter is very young and may just need to mature a little more but I believe I would listen to the intervention teacher and let her try. It shouldn't hurt anything and may help a lot. Everyone learns differently, you just have to find what works for her. I agree! Never hurts to try alternative methods of learning. Go for it. PS: Completely unrelated, but to state a point, my sister taught her daughter simple sign language signs when she was barely 6 months old. She was reading blended words like "bring" "brush" when she was 4. Subsequently, she skipped kindergarten and was (and continues to be) top reader in her class. She's in 4th grade now. Back in the 60's when I was little and they didn't have alternative learning methods in school, I had struggled in school. My 2nd grade teacher wanted to flunk me. I remember my parents were so upset!! Flunk 2nd grade? Ha! Anyway, I was tested in 3rd grade for hearing and I am completely deaf in my right ear, and I have a slight lisp. It is caused by nerve damage that cannot be corrected with surgery, so I live with it. I remember taking special speech classes when I was little and I had to sit at the front of the class so I could hear and pay attention. I've had to deal with this disability all my life but I have survived, and succeeded nearly 50 years so far. Alternative learning... I say give it a try! Give your sweet girl Cheryl a big hug from me. You tell her all will be OK. We all have different ways of 'getting it' and learning ... it's a process... we just find our way that works...and she's no exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 the school is supposed to start teaching me the 44 signs of tucker signing on thursday. she has the eagerness to learn. she tries so hard...just gets stuck sounding the words out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Originally posted by sagebrushquilter ...just gets stuck sounding the words out. I wonder if you put some earphones on her ears while she is reading. She can hear herself talk wearing the ear phones. She might have some luck with that. Just a thought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meg Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 hi kristina - i'm vaguely familiar with it. i can't see that it would hurt anything. from what i understand, it is a system that assigns hand signs to different sounds, so when they see the 'letter or combination of letters' they have a sound that comes with it. might work, worth a try. good luck! meg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Originally posted by quiltmonkey Originally posted by sagebrushquilter ...just gets stuck sounding the words out. I wonder if you put some earphones on her ears while she is reading. She can hear herself talk wearing the ear phones. She might have some luck with that. Just a thought...... i may try that. she comes across a word that she has seen 100 times and still thinks she has to sound it out. and rake, cake, bake...she sounds each letter out. doesn't recognize that the "ake" has the same sound and only the first letter is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Originally posted by meg hi kristina - i'm vaguely familiar with it. i can't see that it would hurt anything. from what i understand, it is a system that assigns hand signs to different sounds, so when they see the 'letter or combination of letters' they have a sound that comes with it. might work, worth a try. good luck! meg that's what i understand too. i will give it a go with her. the intervention teacher felt that the regular teacher could do it with her also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcclannan Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 You know, Albert Einstein didn't learn to read till he was 9 so don't lose heart. I taught 3rd grade for 23 years and regardless of what all the research and new methods propose, every student seems to have a reading switch that turns on at different times. Just because she isn't meeting the milestones the district uses doesn't mean there is anything "wrong". Late bloomers aren't less intelligent than everyone else, they just aren't on the same schedule. Hang in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srichardson Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Kristina, My youngest son was about nine before he began reading. He was put into a special class and the teacher used the Hooked on Phonics series of books. She had him reading in a very short time where all else had failed. It is just a matter of finding the right system that works. It can take time but she will get there. Phonics didn't work for Cheryl but something will. She is very young and as you well know kids develop at different speeds. My oldest read early but has always had trouble with math. The younger one read late but never had trouble with math. Same family, different kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neher-in-law5 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Kristina, my 8 year old grandson also struggles to read. He had all the phonics sounds down well, but needs to sound each letter out as he reads. He has a hard time putting all the sounds together as a simple word because some of those sounds don't stay the same in the word as they do in the phonic sound. Let us know how Cheryl does with this. I hope she finds her working trigger soon and enjoys the learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I assume your daughter is in Grade 1 or 2? I taught Kindergarten, Grade 1 and Grade 2 for many years and approached Reading from many different directions. It will be interesting to know how this system works, and I hesitate to give advice without knowing your child. I found that more kids learned to read whole words than through phonics ( phonics is useful for spelling, however). Does the teacher do Big Book reading every day? One on One, there is a program called Paired Reading that helps, although it is usually used with older students. What is your feeling about your child's learning? It is not unusual for children to be hesitant readers in Grade 1 and really pick it up in Grade 2. Please let us know how this works out. Sylvia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 cheryl is in 1st grade. what i have heard from several teachers is that if she is not reading by the time second grade starts...she will quickly be left behind. i do not want her to be frustrated and felt left out. i do appreciate that all kids are different and learn at different rates. she is very smart and is well beyond many kids socially. but then, with 7 kids in the family, she has a step up on most in the social realm! her math is right on...and i just hope we find the right method for making reading "click" with her. i spoke to the district's reading liaison tonight. she has the tucker signing strategy and is going to loan the system to us in hopes of it helping cheryl. she also offered to spend time with her in hopes of evaluating her learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiltmonkey Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 You are such a good mama to your kiddos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thanks shana. I have felt a bit stretched lately...but I try. I took my kids out for pizza last night...then to a percussion concert at the high school. We had a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I, too, taught school for many years and agree with everyone that kids learn differently and at different stages of development. Don't be afraid to try something new! But at the same time, tried and true methods work, no matter how old the method is. There are many ways of learning....and teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 My hearing is fine but I can't sound out words, it just doesn't make sense to me. I can't figure out what the sounds should be unless I know what the word is. I read early then lost is when I had to learn ITA, so it may be she just needs another way of having words explained to her. I'm sure she will come up with a method it may just take a little longer than you would like. Ferret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srichardson Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Kristina, I just saw this link on another site and thought that it might be of interest to you. I haven't read through it but noticed that the issue can affect reading ability. http://irlen.com/distortioneffects.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 sue....funny that you should mention this...2 of my kids have irlen syndrome. i am very aware of it. cheryl has not yet shown any signs of having it....but I know what to look for in case it pops up. there are several different types of irlen actually. my other 2 kids have different types. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srichardson Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Good luck with your search. You certainly have your hands full! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkayr Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 What about hangman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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