irene rose Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hi Ladies and Gents, I usually read the forums, but generally don't post. I guess I'm shy or quiet??? But, I've been thinking about this topic for awhile, and really want to know what other LA'ers think.... When starting my stitches, I take a couple stitches forward and backwards to secure the thread. Sometimes, I don't like the way it looks, especially if the thread is on the "heavier weight" side. And, I want my starts and stops to be as invisible as possible. But, I don't want to necessarily bury the threads. If I only take one or two stitches back and forth, I worry the stitches won't hold and the quilting may start to come "undone". What do you think - what has been your experience? Is it safe to just do two stitches and expect it to hold? Thank you for your responses. irene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.A Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 IMHO the only way to make your starts & stops inconspicuous is to leave tails & bury them. Sorry, I don't think there is a suitable substitute...especially for a show quilt. How many stitches it takes to actually make threads secure (on a functional quilt) will depend on the thread (weight & fiber). Nancy in Tucson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zora Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Of course, it depends on the use of the quilt and the quality of its construction. I take very tiny stitches, the smallest my machine will stitch, for about 1/4 inch at the beginning and end of a line of stitching. I try to begin and end in an inconspicuous place, like a seam if possible. It is pretty secure. In fact, when you want these stitches out, you can barely get them out. For show quilts, yes, knotting and burying is the way to go. It also depends on the number of starts and stops. If you are using one thread color, in an E to E freehand design, knotting and burying won't take that much longer. I am currently working on a HUGE art quilt, and knotting and burying has added roughly double to the amount of time the quilt is taking. Not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene rose Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Thanks ladies. Yes, I should have stated I was refering to non-show quilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie in Ok Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 This may help answer your question about starting and stopping look for the topic " threads hanging" and scroll down to where Dawn gave her explaination of how to do this. Helped me alot and hope it helps with your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I knot and bury all my thread tails. It really doesn't take me longer than slowing down enough to do a few small stitches and I can't find where I started and stopped so I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cegates Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I have gone from wondering why anyone would take the trouble to knot and bury to feeling like it is the only way to stop and start. I had too many worries with the other methods (backstitching, tiny stitches). I tended to have thread breaks when putting in the tiny stitches, didn't like the way it looked and always worried about sending quilts home that might come unraveled, especially with slippery threads. I use a basting needle that has a fairly large eye. It is really easy and quick to do after a little practice, and I am a lot better at this method than the others. Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apylinski Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Can someone show me or explain to me how you knot and bury the threads? I've never done it that way but maybe I need to start??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeannieB Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm not sure if everyone buries their threads like this, but here is how renae haddadin does it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.A Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for posting that, Jeannie. That's not how I've been doing it. Will have to give Renae's way a try. How I love this forum! Nancy in Tucson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilting Heidi Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I do it just like Renae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little House Creations Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm going to try this on my next quilt but I have some of those open eye needles - think they'd work really well! Great video. Anyone have any thoughts on how this will work with Glide thread - it's pretty slippery and not sure that the knot will actually hold the thread back??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apylinski Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Great video Jeannie. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie in Ok Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for the great video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twquilter Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for sharing that video JeannieB. That helps to explain it perfectly. I will have to give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferBernard Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I do use the open end needles to bury the thread. Not having to thread the eye of the needle with old eyes is a plus for those needles. I like the ones in the Fons and Porter line of sewing notions best. I keep the needle on a magnetic business card and just lay it on the quilt top as I am quilting so that I don't loose the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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