Kueser Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I read a magazine article the other day that stated judges will count off on pantos that go all the way off the edge. They stated the quilting should not be under the binding. Any thoughts on this and what is the logic for this? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witha'K'quilting Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 not a clue. i want my quilting to go to the edge of the quilt and be underneath the binding to help secure the stitches. just my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calicokat Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I've always thought like Kristina, that it should be under the binding to secure it. Was this certified quilt judge being quoted, and a large show being referenced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancing bear Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I believe this was in the most recent On Track magazine, referring to "robotic" quilting.... article named Creating Computerized Quilts for Competition. Paragraph reads: "If you are entering a quilt with edge to edge quilting in competition, you may need to creatively edit the pattern to end before the binding." Evidently there is conversation going on about how to catagorize 'robotic' quilting ... hmmm ... it will be interesting, won't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busy Quilting Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I'd prefer it to go out to the very edge to eliminate possible waves in the binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferBernard Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I can see the stitches not going off the edge for a computer guided competition quilt because it would show a greater level of skill. I guess a pantograph not going off the edge would also show a greater level of skill for the judges. I do like going off the edge for an everyday quilt to secure the stitching under the binding. You never know with the judging thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klwheeler Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Well I just ask the clients and all so far don't mind the quilting extending off the quilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue E. Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Unless I am putting a panto into a center of the quilt and doing a different design in the borders, I run the panto off the quilt - sides and top and bottom. I prefer the look of panto going under the binding and I feel the binding secures the stitches. I am computerized and would never think of stopping before the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitepinesquilter Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 In one of the first books I purchased when I started longarm quilting it said to stop just inside the 1/4" that would be bound. Just inside the 1/4" as in enough that the binding being sewn on would secure the stitches but the remaining 1/4" would not be flattened by quilting. That way the binding would be filled nicely. That was, and is, the only time I saw it referenced, and I have no idea what book it was. It just stuck in my head and this topic triggered it. I, too, stitch all the way and they look fine that way, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffq-lar Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 *sarcasm alert* It's called "edge to edge" not "stitch it right up to but not over the edge so you can attach the binding but if you're off even a little bit or if the customer trims the quilt top to square it, it's gonna look horrible". Sorry-I couldn't resist. Remember, there are no quilt police. Techniques vary around the country/world. Do what works for you and what looks best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaC Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Boy! I'm with Linda! Are there people out there who resort to these tactics... er...rules to drive people nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkinpatchquilter Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I've noticed, rule breakers are notorious ribbon winners. I'd say do what looks best as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabelongarm Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 hmmmmm. How do the judges know we don't stop just past the seam of the binding? Sarcasm alert, like Linda said. . . Joanne Flamand Artistic Quilt Design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micajah Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm having trouble picturing this. How would they know where the stitches end if it's under the binding anyway? As to how it affects the fullness of the binding to have stitches go off the edge completely or to stop 1/4 inch in from the edge...can't picture that being a problem either way. If the binding isn't full but it lies straight, just put a little thin strip of batting in as you sew it down. Oh, wait! I better find out if old x-ray eyes can see that too! Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewCuteQuilting Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 As a 'robotic quilter' ..I kind of like that! lol ...I personally would think stopping anywhere short of the edge would give the quilt an 'unfinished' look. Like it was a mistake and you didn't take the pattern all the way to the edge. E2E patterns end each panto row with a continuous line, not leaving an open end to the quilting. It will actually sew a line cutting the last shape of the row in half- more or less abruptly ending the quilting. Now, when I am stitching a particular border pattern I will leave 1/3" from the edge so the binding will not cover it. But in E2E quilting it would be a LOT of work to stop and tie off busy patterns if you didn't want to cover it with binding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Sparrow Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm a little confused. But that's nothing new lol! Are we suggesting that stitching that has gone off the edge and not been secured will be magically secured by the binding stitch crossing it perpendicularly? I don't think so. Not unless your binding stitch is really tiny. I was called on this once years ago by a client and she showed me by scratching at the last few stitches travelling under the binding and they nearly ALL came loose. I now recommend using a really small stitch to attach binding or lock every stop and start into my basting stitch. As a general rule, I never trim a stitching line and I leave my basting stitches under my bindings. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcclannan Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Love the sarcasm, Linda. Sometimes the judges get really desperate to criticize SOMETHING! There are really so many right ways to do things. It upsets me when people think there is only one right way and it's theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I totally agree with Linda, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinneaMarie Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I quilt to within 1/2" of it's life. Umm.....I mean edge! That way when it is trimmed & squared there is less chance of slicing off the quilting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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